Propertarian Podcast #001

August 21, 2016

Butch’s Notes and Outline for Episode


Howdy, this is Butch and you’re listening to the Propertarian Podcast with Curt Doolittle.

Curt is an American philosopher and entrepreneur based out of Kiev, Ukraine. He is the founder of the Propertarian Institute where he works on Propertarianism.  You can follow Curt on facebook (just search for Curt Doolittle), and on Twitter @curtdoolittle, and read is writings a

I blog at and, and you can follow me on Twitter @PoseidonAwoke.

Propertarianism is a huge topic, so I’ll just read a brief introduction from Welcome to the Revolution at

“Propertarianism provides the missing logic of cooperation that has caused the artificial separation between science, philosophy, and law for 2500 years.


Propertarianism is the antidote to Marxism, Pseudoscience, Postmodernism and Deceit. It is the correction and completion of the classical liberal project, which is itself an expansion of the Anglo-Saxon franchise, and in turn an expansion of the European and Indo-European project: the heroic society. Where the greatest heroism is the costly burden of truth telling and personal sovereignty.

If there is any end of history, it is not Marxist socialism, or democratic secular humanism, but the truthful society made possible by the reformation of classical liberalism to facilitate cooperation between heterogeneous peoples while prohibiting every possible means of parasitism, and demanding productive efforts in order to survive. By prohibiting all parasitism we leave only productive voluntary exchange as a means of survival.”

Topic: Civilizational Strategies


– FORESTLANDS: Aristocratic Ethics: What will someone not retaliate against even if we agree to it?(rulers/teleological ethics:outcomes) The ethics of warriors who must hold territory. This is a very high cost strategy because while professional warrior aristocracy is militarily superior, smaller numbers mean threats must be constantly suppressed when small, as soon as identified.

– BORDERLANDS: Cosmopolitan(Jewish) Ethics: What will someone consent to Regardless of future resentment and retaliation? (borderland/subculture/deontological ethics:rules) The ethics of diasporic, migrating traders, or herding peoples who can prey upon the locals who hold territory. This is a very low cost (parasitic) ethics that avoids all contribution to the host commons, but requires preserving the ability to exit (migrate). It is the raider strategy by systemic and verbal rather than physical means.

– STEPPELANDS: Russian(Orthodox) Ethics: What can I get away with now by negotiation and subterfuge, and hold by force later? (steppe raiders) The ethics of steppe people surrounded by competitors, always hostile and unpredictable. This is a difficult and expensive but only possible strategy, when one is surrounded by hostile opportunity seekers. While seemingly expansive, it’s actually a fearful one – aggression as the only possible means of controlling defensive positions across open territory.

– RIVERLANDS: Chinese Ethics: What can I get away with now, but over time make impossible to change later? The ethics of long term ruling bureaucratic class. Sun Tzu strategy, and Confucian hyper-familialism. This is an exceptionally cost-effective strategy if one possesses a territorial resource (heartland), and can fortify that heartland. Riverlands strategy defends against Steppland and Desertland strategies.

– DESERTLANDS: Muslim Ethics: (I am still working on this one because I don’t get that it’s causal, but opportunistic.) What can I justify now in order to make this minor advance now? And thereby accumulate wins by wearing down opponents over long periods. The ethics of opportunism. As far as I can tell islam is just an excuse for justifying opportunism. We can consider this the combination of religion and justifying opportunism – a long term very successful strategy becuase it’s very low cost.

– HOSTILELANDS: African Ethics (pre-christian). Africa is akin to the Desertlands because of the sheer number of competitors, the hostility of the disease gradient, the plethora of wildlife, combined with the primitiveness of the available technologies. This is the only possible strategy until one or more core states can evolve, and create sufficient stability in some regions. (this is occurring now).

It is a mistake (always), to consider conflicts within states over local power (capital allocation), as of the same consequence as conflicts between civilizations over borders. Because the former is a kinship conflict over priorities, while the latter is a genetic conflict over group evolutionary strategies.

[Curt’s Discussion of the Topic]

***The following are random notes by Butch***

Decideability, how do you provide everyone with decideability across the organization?

Topic = Comparative GeoStrategy, so we don’t reconfirm our biases. We learn our strengths vs weakness.

Martin van Crevald, 4th Gen Warfare, Culture of War

Keegan, History of Warfare

Armstrong, Age of Transformation. Where do religions come from? (decideability, conflict avoidance) (loyalty, truth, respect assistant to Mithra)

Zoroaster opposes militaristic Indo-Europeans (fairly equal). Religion becomes the method by which you oppose. Nobility is already a warrior elite. Division: split between the raiders and those who are religious.

Iranians, Europeans, Indians (too genetic)

Desert is a good fortress, can’t create bureaucracy.

Christianity (all religion) : How to control the aristocracy.

1-3 generation of war (require states)

Takes families to pay for the capital infrastructure of warfare.

Metaphysical cycle

Prosperity means consumption today. Transcendence means evolution tomorrow.

Law, what you cannot do. Religion, celebrations, Government, commons.

Indo-Europeans turned religion from bonding to opposition to government. 1500-3500 BC.

Dark Age caused by Muslim raiding, plagues of Justinian brought over by China, byzantium.

Secular humanism is warfare on the family.

Make the world safe for rule by credit, Cosmpolitan strat; marx socialism, rothbard, neocon

Make the world safe by lie

Make the world safe for natural law.

Paternalism = Domestication = Transcendence.


Reddit, by of_ice_and_rock, Ancient Group Evolutionary Strategies.


You can follow Curt on facebook (just search for Curt Doolittle), and on Twitter @curtdoolittle, and read is writings a

you can follow me on Twitter @PoseidonAwoke and follow my blogs and Thanks for listening and I’ll leave you with one last thought from Curt:


We hold formation despite our fear.
We speak the truth regardless of cost.
We attack the enemy despite our injuries.
And we will not rest until they are defeated.

Hail Victory.


Curt’s Process:

create list

find examples in history

show as incentives

narration (say it over and over,sketch and make communicable)


Production Notes

Skype call recorded with TotalRecorder Pro Edition 8.6.6040 and Blackout Edition Yeti Mic by Blue on Windows 10

Windows Sound Settings
> Playback
– Sound Blaster Recon3D1 enabled (default communications device)(physically turn down volume knob on desktop speakers while recording)
– Yeti enabled (default device)
> Recording
– Enabled: Microphone Sound Blaster Recon3Di (default device)
– Enabled: Microphone Yeti (default communications device)(selected in Skype and Total Recorder below)
– Ready: What U Hear (Sound Blaster Recon 3Di)
– Disabled: Microphone Array Sound Blaster Recon 3Di

Skype Settings
Call > Audio Settings
– Mic: Yeti > Volume: Max (auto checkbox = off)
– Speakers: Yeti > Volume 90% (this controls the level of the caller)(auto checkbox = off)

Total Recorder PE Settings
– Level +3dB (141%) (upped this level to get some peaks into yellow)
– Recording wizard
> Internet Telephony
— Playback: Speakers (Yeti)(headphones plugged into Yeti jack)
— Recording Device: Mic (Yeti)
— Record in different channels = No
> Recording Format
— MP3
— Middle Quality (CBR 56kBit/s, 22 050 Hz, stereo) (2hrs 5mins = 51MB)
> Pause Reduction and Split Settins
— Pause Reduction = No
— Auto-File Creation = No (I think this should be Yes in the future. With No, I was forced to stop and save periodically. I think this setting should allow me to hit stop and the file will already be saved. This seems safer in case of computer or application crash).

Yeti Settings
– Headphone Volume = 50%
– Pattern = Cardioid (#3, looks like a butt)
– Gain = 9:30 to 10 o’clock (approx 30%)

Post Production Notes

Use Mike Cernovich’s podcast improvement tips

How to edit your podcast in Audacity

I’ve edited podcasts for hours and had everything spliced together. It does not increase listens. I now spend 10 minutes editing podcasts to improve sound quality.

Noise Removal: Don’t talk for first five second of podcast to create a noise profile. Select those 5 seconds. Get noise profile. Then remove noise. Be sure to cut out those first five seconds of your podcast.

From there, apply these simple fixes to improve your podcast audio quality in Audacity.

  • Normalize | -1 Decibel
  • Compression | Threshold -15 to -20
  • Equalization: Do a treble boost, then do a bass boost.
  • Normalize | -1 Decibel
  • Hard Limit | -4 Decibel
  • Normalize | -1 Decibel
  • Export to mp3

My Steps

Back up raw podcast to separate file with ‘RAW_ORIGINAL’ label. Then edit the other file. Do not touch raw original, save it in case it is needed later or we screw up in post production.

Open a clean Audacity window and drop in the MP3.

Noise Reduction
– select (click and drag in timeline) a quiet section (second or two)
(next time follow Mike’s advice and leave 5 seconds blank at beginning of podcast to get a better sound profile)
– Effect > Noise reduction > Step 1 > Click [Get Noise Profile] then close dialog
– select entire podcast (ctrl+a)
– Effect > Noise reduction >
— Noise reduction: 12 dB
— Sensitivity: 6.00
— Frequency smoothing: 0
— Noise: reduce
— Click [OK] to process, took about a minute

Normalize #1 (entire file still selected)
– Effect > Normalize
— Checked: Remove DC Offset
— Checked: Normalize Max Amplitude = -1.0 dB
— Unchecked: Normalize Stereo
— [OK]

Compressor (entire file still selected)
– Effect > Compressor
— Threshold: -17 dB
— Noise floor: -40 dB
— Ratio = 2:1
— Attack time: 0.2 sec
— Release time: 1.0 secs
— Checked: make up gain
— Unchecked: Compress based on peaks
— [OK]

Equalization: Treble Boost (entire file still selected)
– Effect > Equalization
— Selected: Draw Curves
–> Select Curve: Treble Boost
— Length of filter: 50%
— [OK]

Equalization: Bass Boost (entire file still selected)
– Effect > Equalization
— Selected: Draw Curves
–> Select Curve: Bass Boost
— Length of filter: 50%
— [OK]

Normalize #2 (entire file still selected)
– Effect > Normalize
— Checked: Remove DC Offset
— Checked: Normalize Max Amplitude = -1.0 dB
— Unchecked: Normalize Stereo
— [OK]

Hard Limit (entire file still selected)
– Effect > Limiter
–> Type: Hard Limit (0,0,-4,10)
— Input Gain (mono/left): 0
— Input Gain (right): 0
— Limit to dB: -4
— Hold to ms: 10
— Apply Make-up Gain = false/No
— [OK]

Normalize #3 (entire file still selected)
– Effect > Normalize
— Checked: Remove DC Offset
— Checked: Normalize Max Amplitude = -1.0 dB
— Unchecked: Normalize Stereo
— [OK]

File > Save Project As… To safe file to disk. Perhaps I should have done this before running all the filters above.

Basic Post Production is now done. Now edit for content, remove bad spots, pops, etc.

Fix P-Pops

Created an EQ Filter curve called Fix P-Pops 1. Select pops and apply that curve in Effect Equalization. The curve zeros out everything under 100, then curves up to 400, then curves down from 1600 (1.6 KHz) to put 10KHz at zero. (looks like a mound)

I went around fixing pops and clicks for a while, then I quickly became bored of this. Ok, so there are pos and clicks? So what? Ain’t nobody got time fo dis. Most of the pops are on my side and clicks are on Curts. I just need a better pop filter on my side. Currently, I am using a thin gym sock. I think I’ll try a thicker, softer sock next. (Will have to see what the wife has available 😀 ).

Post Production Thoughts

  1. Save project first
  2. Do editing first, fix pops, clicks, remove unnecessary/bad sections THEN run the filters.
  3. Not so much bass boos as above. My voice is a little too deep and it muddies me up too much. Curt and Mike Cernovich speak in higher tones so the bass boost applied is fine for them, but too much for me. (at least I’m guessing it’s the bass boost.)